Comments on: CIO’s Say ‘No’ To iPhone – Call It Non-Business And Say Touchscreen Keyboard Is Impossible http://techmiso.com/1551/cios-say-no-to-iphone-call-it-non-business-and-say-touchscreen-keyboard-is-impossible/ Tech evangelism and Miso soup like no other Thu, 26 Jan 2012 14:39:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Clairvoire http://techmiso.com/1551/cios-say-no-to-iphone-call-it-non-business-and-say-touchscreen-keyboard-is-impossible/comment-page-1/#comment-6223 Clairvoire Tue, 03 Aug 2010 06:56:08 +0000 http://techmiso.com/?p=1551#comment-6223 It's nice to see technology evolve. At least, in ways that aren't flawed and stupid. A piano and a keyboard is a very apt analogy. Why would you pick that to attack? It is like picking one of the many bullet proof surfaces of a tank, and firing your pistol into it. I'll enjoy to see you counter that analogy, haha. <br><br>But either way, the fact a touch screen is flawed isn't it's fault. It's just because phones are small. Tactile keyboards at that size are also a pain in the ass. If you want to type something involved, don't do it on your phone, do it on a keyboard. A full you-need-a-desk keyboard. Technology can make stuff we use smaller, but that doesn't make it better. It's nice to see technology evolve. At least, in ways that aren't flawed and stupid. A piano and a keyboard is a very apt analogy. Why would you pick that to attack? It is like picking one of the many bullet proof surfaces of a tank, and firing your pistol into it. I'll enjoy to see you counter that analogy, haha.

But either way, the fact a touch screen is flawed isn't it's fault. It's just because phones are small. Tactile keyboards at that size are also a pain in the ass. If you want to type something involved, don't do it on your phone, do it on a keyboard. A full you-need-a-desk keyboard. Technology can make stuff we use smaller, but that doesn't make it better.

]]> By: William http://techmiso.com/1551/cios-say-no-to-iphone-call-it-non-business-and-say-touchscreen-keyboard-is-impossible/comment-page-1/#comment-1851 William Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:47:54 +0000 http://techmiso.com/?p=1551#comment-1851 I run my business almost entirely on my iPhone. I had difficulty with the keyboard for the first couple weeks, but now virtually nothing slows me down even when entering complicated passwords. Apple would have to go out of business to pry this little device from my fingers!<br><br>Once my business switched over to apple products, productivity increased ten fold. I doubt I'll ever look at RIM or Microsoft products ever again. I run my business almost entirely on my iPhone. I had difficulty with the keyboard for the first couple weeks, but now virtually nothing slows me down even when entering complicated passwords. Apple would have to go out of business to pry this little device from my fingers!

Once my business switched over to apple products, productivity increased ten fold. I doubt I'll ever look at RIM or Microsoft products ever again.

]]> By: Michael http://techmiso.com/1551/cios-say-no-to-iphone-call-it-non-business-and-say-touchscreen-keyboard-is-impossible/comment-page-1/#comment-953 Michael Wed, 13 May 2009 02:14:35 +0000 http://techmiso.com/?p=1551#comment-953 I can't believe this was put up for discussion. The iPhone is definitely not a business phone. It's a device for non power users just like any other apple brands such as their macs. Also, were you saying that a college kid with an iPhone would beat someone with a QWERTY device in a typing speed contest? You weren't clear on that. If you were saying that, then obviously you haven't tested both. Try typing this on your iPhone: A1B2C3D4. This post is almost a joke. I'll leave it at that, you can enjoy changing between alphabet and numeric keyboards when typing on the iPhone and the lack of multitasking. I can't believe this was put up for discussion. The iPhone is definitely not a business phone. It's a device for non power users just like any other apple brands such as their macs. Also, were you saying that a college kid with an iPhone would beat someone with a QWERTY device in a typing speed contest? You weren't clear on that. If you were saying that, then obviously you haven't tested both. Try typing this on your iPhone: A1B2C3D4. This post is almost a joke. I'll leave it at that, you can enjoy changing between alphabet and numeric keyboards when typing on the iPhone and the lack of multitasking.

]]> By: Rich Chuckrey http://techmiso.com/1551/cios-say-no-to-iphone-call-it-non-business-and-say-touchscreen-keyboard-is-impossible/comment-page-1/#comment-811 Rich Chuckrey Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:17:39 +0000 http://techmiso.com/?p=1551#comment-811 The 3.0 release should help out with typing -- it allows the keyboard to go 'landscape' -- spacing out the keys a little bit more for your [fat] fingers. The 3.0 release should help out with typing — it allows the keyboard to go 'landscape' — spacing out the keys a little bit more for your [fat] fingers.

]]> By: Rich Chuckrey http://techmiso.com/1551/cios-say-no-to-iphone-call-it-non-business-and-say-touchscreen-keyboard-is-impossible/comment-page-1/#comment-810 Rich Chuckrey Sun, 05 Apr 2009 13:42:12 +0000 http://techmiso.com/?p=1551#comment-810 I've grown to like my iPhone since buying it a few months ago. Wouldn't<br>necessarily marry it -- my wife cooks a much better tomato sauce. My fingers<br>are also much more familiar now with the virtual keyboard, but I was a fish<br>out of water typing up early emails.<br>I only decided on the iPhone after putting a QWERTY device through its<br>paces. You could say I had an unbiased position when making the choice<br>between Apple's touchscreen and a QWERTY.<br>And, you're right, I wouldn't call my company 'major', but IT procurements<br>in my agency are in fact my call -- not a bunch of cash, but near a million<br>USD/year -- give or take a $100K depending on capital purchases and the<br>YEN/USD conversion.<br><br>Back to your comment: More of what I read/hear from IT management folks out<br>there is heavy-leaning in the RIM/QWERTY direction. Maybe those folks 'have'<br>researched the iPhone, maybe they haven't. Frankly, what I saw was very<br>little research and more off-the-cuff opinions of the iPhone and its<br>'perceived' typing limitations.<br><br>Here's a 'toy' quote for you:<br><br>Ken Davis, IT director over at TV Channel Five--<br>"It's an interesting *toy* from a personal viewpoint..." Kudos for Ken<br>though because he goes on to say he would consider the iPhone if Apple made<br>improvements to its hardware and software -- he however only specified<br>Microsoft Exchange as one of those required improvements -- which is in fact<br>now supported on the iPhone....<br><br>*pacificIT <<a href="http://www.pacificit.ca/%3E*" rel="nofollow">http://www.pacificit.ca/>*</a> puts it spot-on in his comment<br>[above]--<br>"On behalf of entrepreneurs already using it and those now playing catchup<br>for Apple on the backend network security side, my money's on Apple. Sorry<br>dinosaurs. Sorry RIM."<br><br>And as for your 'tip time' on 'reporting well' -- Thanks, but no thanks. My<br>point still stands: smart companies are the ones that give the iPhone a<br>serious look now or get left behind.<br><br>Have a great UK day! I've grown to like my iPhone since buying it a few months ago. Wouldn't
necessarily marry it — my wife cooks a much better tomato sauce. My fingers
are also much more familiar now with the virtual keyboard, but I was a fish
out of water typing up early emails.
I only decided on the iPhone after putting a QWERTY device through its
paces. You could say I had an unbiased position when making the choice
between Apple's touchscreen and a QWERTY.
And, you're right, I wouldn't call my company 'major', but IT procurements
in my agency are in fact my call — not a bunch of cash, but near a million
USD/year — give or take a $100K depending on capital purchases and the
YEN/USD conversion.

Back to your comment: More of what I read/hear from IT management folks out
there is heavy-leaning in the RIM/QWERTY direction. Maybe those folks 'have'
researched the iPhone, maybe they haven't. Frankly, what I saw was very
little research and more off-the-cuff opinions of the iPhone and its
'perceived' typing limitations.

Here's a 'toy' quote for you:

Ken Davis, IT director over at TV Channel Five–
“It's an interesting *toy* from a personal viewpoint…” Kudos for Ken
though because he goes on to say he would consider the iPhone if Apple made
improvements to its hardware and software — he however only specified
Microsoft Exchange as one of those required improvements — which is in fact
now supported on the iPhone….

*pacificIT <http://www.pacificit.ca/>* puts it spot-on in his comment
[above]–
“On behalf of entrepreneurs already using it and those now playing catchup
for Apple on the backend network security side, my money's on Apple. Sorry
dinosaurs. Sorry RIM.”

And as for your 'tip time' on 'reporting well' — Thanks, but no thanks. My
point still stands: smart companies are the ones that give the iPhone a
serious look now or get left behind.

Have a great UK day!

]]> By: jtrigsby http://techmiso.com/1551/cios-say-no-to-iphone-call-it-non-business-and-say-touchscreen-keyboard-is-impossible/comment-page-1/#comment-808 jtrigsby Sun, 05 Apr 2009 07:56:00 +0000 http://techmiso.com/?p=1551#comment-808 "...just not cut from the business mold." Frankly, I would take that as a compliment. Business as usual produces results as usual.<br><br>I bet IBM (or even Microsoft and Yahoo) said the same thing about Google, "...they're just not the 'business' type." “…just not cut from the business mold.” Frankly, I would take that as a compliment. Business as usual produces results as usual.

I bet IBM (or even Microsoft and Yahoo) said the same thing about Google, “…they're just not the 'business' type.”

]]> By: fetus_over_easy http://techmiso.com/1551/cios-say-no-to-iphone-call-it-non-business-and-say-touchscreen-keyboard-is-impossible/comment-page-1/#comment-807 fetus_over_easy Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:02:44 +0000 http://techmiso.com/?p=1551#comment-807 i have an itouch, not a blackberry. i use the keyboard mainly at home when i have to run from my computer to the can or in bed as an inbetween. for me, the peck curve has been long but do-able. <br>PS I have fat fingers. i have an itouch, not a blackberry. i use the keyboard mainly at home when i have to run from my computer to the can or in bed as an inbetween. for me, the peck curve has been long but do-able.
PS I have fat fingers.

]]> By: Oli http://techmiso.com/1551/cios-say-no-to-iphone-call-it-non-business-and-say-touchscreen-keyboard-is-impossible/comment-page-1/#comment-805 Oli Sat, 04 Apr 2009 23:02:34 +0000 http://techmiso.com/?p=1551#comment-805 You love Apple so much it hurt to read this. <br><br>Consider -- just for a second, please -- that these people might actually have a hard time using an iPhone. You don't (whooptidoo!) but you're not responsible for making purchasing decisions in a major company.<br><br>Consider that the people saying these things have actually done the research inside their respective companies. Consider that they might actually be using real data to try and explain that they find the keyboard an issue... Rather than your survey-of-one.<br><br>And while I'm at it, where, in any of these reports (or their quotes) do they call it a `toy`?! A "nice to have" means a luxury. Like a hot tub. Doesn't help you do any extra work but it's a nice thing to have in your office.<br><br>Tip time: If you want to do tech reporting well, you have to be a little less sensational when somebody says something mildly disparaging against something you'd like to marry one day. This is just hackery. At its worse. You love Apple so much it hurt to read this.

Consider — just for a second, please — that these people might actually have a hard time using an iPhone. You don't (whooptidoo!) but you're not responsible for making purchasing decisions in a major company.

Consider that the people saying these things have actually done the research inside their respective companies. Consider that they might actually be using real data to try and explain that they find the keyboard an issue… Rather than your survey-of-one.

And while I'm at it, where, in any of these reports (or their quotes) do they call it a `toy`?! A “nice to have” means a luxury. Like a hot tub. Doesn't help you do any extra work but it's a nice thing to have in your office.

Tip time: If you want to do tech reporting well, you have to be a little less sensational when somebody says something mildly disparaging against something you'd like to marry one day. This is just hackery. At its worse.

]]> By: pacificIT http://techmiso.com/1551/cios-say-no-to-iphone-call-it-non-business-and-say-touchscreen-keyboard-is-impossible/comment-page-1/#comment-801 pacificIT Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:31:29 +0000 http://techmiso.com/?p=1551#comment-801 The arguments are slowly becoming cliche. Roman letter based Keyboard? Point for RIM. Innovation and community driven development? Point for Apple. Backend corporate network security? Point for RIM. World-wide acceptance and usability of OS and device? Point for Apple. Sound close? Nope. On behalf of entrepreneurs already using it and those now playing catchup for Apple on the backend network security side, my money's on Apple. Sorry dinosaurs. Sorry RIM. The arguments are slowly becoming cliche. Roman letter based Keyboard? Point for RIM. Innovation and community driven development? Point for Apple. Backend corporate network security? Point for RIM. World-wide acceptance and usability of OS and device? Point for Apple. Sound close? Nope. On behalf of entrepreneurs already using it and those now playing catchup for Apple on the backend network security side, my money's on Apple. Sorry dinosaurs. Sorry RIM.

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